Going back to the groove thing, I assume that doesn’t mean you’re suddenly going to do an electronic record, right?
Well, yes. I think [electronic music] is sonically dead once it’s recorded, then it’s often so bloodless live. God, it’s just so repulsive. But I mean, I like some electronic music, like Kraftwerk in its early days and things Brian Eno did with various members of Neu! and Cluster. As a genre, to me, it’s completely cold right now. There’s no commitment, there’s no physicality, there’s no soul, there’s no…I like having to struggle to make something happen.

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